When Does A Camera Get Too Heavy
Gear weight - what do you consider too heavy?
So I'm semi-invested in M43 with an "older" EM10 ii and 5 non-pro lenses. I'm nonetheless learning the fine art of photography but itching for a new body. The new EM5 3 and EM1 iii have both caught my eyes (forth with the pro 12-40 or 12-100) but and so as some of the newer full-frame mirrorless bodies namely the Nikon Z5/Z7 and R6 from Canon.
I realize there are pros and cons for both systems but the consensus is that full-frame will (commonly) have a "better" picture.
So my question is this: for regular outings (street/neighborhood strolls, travelling) at what bespeak would yous say "My gear is just too heavy, I'd rather only take my phone instead for today"? Is it ane kg (two.ii lbs), one.five kg (3.3 lbs), 2 kg (4.4 lbs)........or y'all don't really care near weight, you just want the best equipment possible?
Since I've merely owned M43 gear with small and calorie-free lenses (my kit weighs near 800 1000), I'one thousand not sure if I'd be as incline to conduct full-frame camera with 1 or 2 lenses with me as ofttimes if I decide to purchase heavier equipment.
Thanking yous in accelerate for your feedback.
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simonsezz wrote:
So I'm semi-invested in M43 with an "older" EM10 ii and v non-pro lenses. I'thousand still learning the art of photography but itching for a new body. The new EM5 iii and EM1 3 accept both caught my eyes (along with the pro 12-40 or 12-100) only then as some of the newer full-frame mirrorless bodies namely the Nikon Z5/Z7 and R6 from Canon.
I realize in that location are pros and cons for both systems but the consensus is that full-frame will (ordinarily) take a "better" pic.
And so my question is this: for regular outings (street/neighborhood strolls, travelling) at what point would you say "My gear is simply too heavy, I'd rather but take my phone instead for today"? Is information technology 1 kg (two.ii lbs), 1.five kg (iii.3 lbs), ii kg (iv.4 lbs)........or y'all don't actually care about weight, you only desire the best equipment possible?
Since I've but owned M43 gear with small and light lenses (my kit weighs about 800 yard), I'grand not sure if I'd exist equally incline to carry full-frame camera with 1 or ii lenses with me as often if I decide to purchase heavier equipment.
Thanking you in advance for your feedback.
For a years I carried a Catechism 5DS body with a 24-70 f/2.eight (ane.7 kg), only then I got tired of that. Switched to a Canon G7X, but I hated that I was missing a lot of shots because it is a much slower system. I tried the Fuji X-T3, and it was a lot of fun to use, but the APS-C sensor didn't do it for me. In the finish I settled on the Sony A7RIII with the Tamron 28-75 f/2.8. Mirrorless are non every bit fast as DSLRs (from offset up time to AF conquering), but it is a compromise I can live with, and the fix is 1.ii kg. I am pretty happy with it.
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kcdogger • Veteran Fellow member • Posts: 3,769
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I have an EM1 mk iii and the 12-100 lens. Both fantastic and IMHO not to heavy at all. I recommend highly. I besides take the EM 5 mk iii and the 12-40 lens - another bang-up combination. Withal, if you get the EM5 mk 3, I recommend as well getting an add-on grip for it, particularly if you are going to darry it far in your hand. These are both bang-up cameras and simply super lenses,
Whatever you lot become, seriouslu consider the 12-100 lens - magical.
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I think that this is very much a personal thing. It depends on what you photograph, where you photograph and how much gear yous carry.
If you lot are shooting walking around town with a single lens, that is one thing. If you are shooting with multiple lenses out of a bag in the back of a car or at an issue, that is another. It is quite another nonetheless if you are taking the photographic camera on multi twenty-four hour period hikes. Another over again if you lot are going on major trips, need backups of everything, have large telephoto lenses and are going on flights.
My trouble has always always been with the last of these, major trips when I bear two bodies and five-6 lenses plus other gear. Carrying whatever body with a general purpose lens around town has never been a trouble for me and on smaller trips I always accept a smallish shoulder bag which limits the corporeality of gear to one trunk and 2-3 pocket-size lenses.
IMHO, having several camera numberless suitable for unlike situations is actually of import.
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i've only had the Olympus EM5/10 cameras for some years, at about 450g for the camera, and so got to employ a Panasonic G9 at 650g for a bit - unfortunately, I found it uncomfortably big and went back.
Basically, be conscientious most thinking "it's Only 200grams" or whatever. Attempt the trunk in a camera shop, most definitely.
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Chris R-UK wrote:
I think that this is very much a personal thing. It depends on what you photo, where you photo and how much gear you carry.
If you are shooting walking effectually town with a unmarried lens, that is 1 thing. If you are shooting with multiple lenses out of a bag in the back of a car or at an event, that is another. It is quite another still if you are taking the camera on multi mean solar day hikes. Another again if you lot are going on major trips, demand backups of everything, have large telephoto lenses and are going on flights.
My problem has always always been with the final of these, major trips when I carry two bodies and v-6 lenses plus other gear. Carrying any torso with a general purpose lens around town has never been a problem for me and on smaller trips I always take a smallish shoulder bag which limits the corporeality of gear to ane body and two-3 small lenses.
IMHO, having several camera bags suitable for different situations is actually important.
+1 specially on the "having several photographic camera numberless suitable for unlike situations is really of import"
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I'm not sure I actually know what my diverse kits counterbalance. I know I have superlight, light, and heavy configurations, though none of my gear, with APS-C as my largest sensor, is heavy in the wider scheme of things. I match the gear to the job and how much I feel like carrying that day, and don't worry nigh it much.
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FF tin can allow for about a terminate or then advantage in use compared to aps-c, two stops to M43?. But information technology'southward not without some trade-offs, also. Typically more expensive, bigger, bulkier, etc. Bigger and bulkier peradventure relevant here.
I don't really have an thought what my "weight limit" might be. "As well much" varies with the settings, etc. If I'1000 traveling by automobile, and non getting too far away, I might take quite a flake of my gear, overlapping the two systems, having aps-c mirror-less and aps-c dslr gear. Then I tin can have the seventy-300 on the dslr and a general mid-range on some other body. I take an A6400 and the 18-135 now. Not heavy enough that I tin can foresee that I'd leave information technology off over weight, mayhap over the bother. Sometimes add a light broad and/or fast prime and that goes a long way to covering most of my walk around needs about of the time.
I'm pretty certain it's unlikely that I'd carry the dslr and 3 or 4 lenses and a smallish tripod around all twenty-four hour period pretty much anywhere these days, especially if I'm expecting to be walking all mean solar day. I did that in Washington, DC, and never used the lxx-300 or travel tripod. Even so missed the long lens in Florence and Rome, with adequately similar settings.
While I wouldn't, I've seen plenty of folks in "tourist" environment conveying 2 large bodies, typically looking like a fast mid-range and 70-200/2.viii. Whether Disneyland, Cinque Terre, the top of Giotto's Campanile in Florence. Non just the weight, it's not convenient, bumps effectually in tight quarters,might be more problematic if locker checking or big bags at security checks, etc.
How one carries the weight can be a difference. A skinny neckstrap is uncomfortable with less weight than a wider strap, for case.
One matter I found on "travel," especially if traveling by air for some part of the trip. Much of the photo gear, electronics, etc., become in conduct-on. My haversack would go all the photographic camera gear, except tripod maybe, chargers, tablets and the similar. As already noted, with another smaller pocketbook of some sort, it'southward easier to not take to comport all or most of the camera gear all the fourth dimension.
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+. My numberless range from a tiny padded hip pocketbook (reconfigured as a crossbody from a fanny pack on a waist belt) that holds my smallest street camera and a spare bombardment to a 22 liter daypack that holds ii cameras, each with a lens, plus spares and a weekend's worth of essentials.
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Martin_99 • Senior Fellow member • Posts: 3,362
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I like to take my small kit Sony A6400+24f1.8 which weights 600g. I utilise small belt handbag (tight fit) for that.
I'grand trying Catechism RP+35f1.8 at present and even with significantly better grip (with extension), it's app. 900g annoys me sometimes. I also need to take unlike handbag, which is non such convenient.
It'south very different person to person and also intended uses. My tolerance to weight is depression, considering I almost allways shoot with my family, so I take to take care near my wife and daughter as well, not just camera But I can imagine, that on photography related trips I would be OK with fullframe and telephoto lenses.
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OP simonsezz • Forum Member • Posts: 51
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Slap-up advice and feedback from everyone, give thanks you!
The consensus from many seems to be that perhaps owning two systems may be the best way to become in my case. Keep my EM10 ii and small lenses (for at present anyways) and purchase a FF body with a lens or 2.
Problem is that, with my photography skills I may not fifty-fifty see a large difference in IQ but it may be worth trying.
For the last yr or so, virtually of my picture taking has been riding my bike (weather permitting) in and around my city and take photographs. I would remember that 1 to 1.5kg would be the most I can comfortably carry in my pocketbook while riding.
Decisions, decisions.....
OP simonsezz • Forum Member • Posts: 51
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Forgot to ask, does anyone know of a website where you lot can "simulate" a camera kit by adding the body and a lens of choice and it instantly gives yous the weight?
Thanks once more!
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simonsezz wrote:
Corking advice and feedback from everyone, thank y'all!
The consensus from many seems to be that perhaps owning ii systems may be the best way to go in my case. Keep my EM10 ii and small lenses (for now anyways) and buy a FF torso with a lens or two.
Problem is that, with my photography skills I may not even come across a big difference in IQ just it may be worth trying.
For the last year or then, most of my moving picture taking has been riding my bike (weather permitting) in and around my city and take photographs. I would think that 1 to one.5kg would exist the virtually I tin comfortably carry in my bag while riding.
Decisions, decisions.....
Endeavor a FF camera first to see if you really see a departure in IQ. If you don't encounter it, then stay with what y'all have. Personally I do see a big difference, but we are all different!
I do ride effectually in my bike a lot, and these are the two bags that I apply for my Sony A7RIV:
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/production/1376624-REG/lowepro_lp37125_flipside_200_aw_ii.html
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1340544-REG/think_tank_photo_462_turnstyle_10_v2_0_convertible.html
The first allows me to have the camera and the 4 lenses that I have: Tamron 17-28, 28-75 & 70-180 f/2.8 and Sony 28 f/two.0
The second is only for the camera, and the 28 f/2.0
It works actually well and I would highly recommend it.
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ericbowles • Senior Fellow member • Posts: 1,812
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My kit is more often than not a little heavier than most other comments. My current light kit is a Nikon Z7II, fourteen-30 f/4, 24-seventy f/4, and either a 105 macro or 70-200 f/2.8. It'due south not that light, but it suits what and how I photograph. I identify a premium on image quality. All the gear is carried in a ThinkTank Turnstyle20 torso bag - a bag that is swell for travel. When traveling, I often get out a photographic camera bag with gear in the motorcar and but take my Turnstyle bag into the field.
Before getting likewise carried away with the weight of my photographic camera gear, I looked at other ways to cutting weight. I chose lighter shoes and saved 2 pounds. I wear lighter weight article of clothing with Smartwool and synthetic materials and saved another 2 pounds. I don't e'er wear jeans when I travel and photograph - saving i.5 pounds. I switched to a unlike belt saving a few ounces. I cut almost vi pounds out of my clothing - and I could probably drop 5 pounds of weight from my body. Cutting weight in my camera gear has a performance impact, then there are limits and I need to look somewhere else for weight savings.
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KCook • Forum Pro • Posts: nineteen,800
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Most mirrorless bodies (except Panasonic?) are fairly light. I like to shoot with zoom lenses, and some FF zooms, fifty-fifty ML designs, go up there in weight. A FF ML body with prime number instead of zoom would be fine for me, every bit the weight goes.
For street photography in that location is conspicuousness to consider, in addition to weight. For some shooters anyways. There certainly are the fearless who stalk the streets with big cameras! Again, a bigger than necessary zoom is not a plus. But nigh primes accommodate SP only fine.
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Nikon33 • Senior Fellow member • Posts: 2,536
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Too heavy...
Well, I do a lot of wildlife photography. I can handhold the Canon EOS R5 with the 600mm f/4L IS III, simply anything beyond that I would consider cumbersome. I beloved my Nikon 800mm lens, but carrying that 10 pound lens with a body can be quite tiring!
Well, I'm I'1000 feeling lazy, I just take hold of the 100-400mm instead and add extenders as necessary... especially when I'chiliad at the zoo.
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simonsezz wrote:
Groovy communication and feedback from anybody, thank you!
The consensus from many seems to be that perhaps owning 2 systems may be the best way to become in my case. Keep my EM10 ii and small lenses (for now anyways) and purchase a FF body with a lens or two.
Trouble is that, with my photography skills I may non even see a large departure in IQ but information technology may be worth trying.
For the terminal twelvemonth or then, about of my picture taking has been riding my bike (weather permitting) in and effectually my metropolis and have photographs. I would think that 1 to i.5kg would be the well-nigh I tin can comfortably carry in my bag while riding.
Nosotros seem to have similar habits. my photo gear mostly resides on my wheel, sometimes in my kayak. My solution is a Mantona bikers' bag or really two. One of them takes my GX7 + five lenses, filters, batteries, cleaning stuff, notepad etc. The fit is more or less perfect. Since the handbag attaches to the saddle post, weight is mostly moot. That said I haven't found it (~two.5kg) a problem on my brusque walks. Usually the body ends up hanging over my shoulder with the last used lens attached. The other purse is for my Sigma DP1-3M kit which incidentally is about the same size as the m43 organization. You can attach it either to the handlebar or the saddle mail service with the appropriate adapter.
https://world wide web.walimex-webshop.com/en/mantona-biker-photo-bag-set up-premium-2-adapter.html
Decisions, decisions.....
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Aleotti • Regular Member • Posts: 125
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simonsezz wrote:
Problem is that, with my photography skills I may not even see a big difference in IQ simply it may be worth trying.
IQ is more often than not BS for pixelpeepers, every camera system these days offers fantabulous IQ (in the last eight years, earlier choosing Fuji's APS-C, I take shot with practically everything from 50MP FF to M43), the difference given by sensors of different sizes has more to exercise with two facts:
- exercise yous reagularly employ high ISO, FF will suits you better
- smaller the sensor and less control you volition have of out of focus areas.
if yous shoot no higher than 6400 and are fine having mostrly everything in focus, and so live happy with M43
Everything else is mumbo jumbo
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rurikw wrote:
simonsezz wrote:
Neat advice and feedback from everyone, thank you lot!
The consensus from many seems to be that perhaps owning 2 systems may be the best mode to go in my case. Continue my EM10 ii and small lenses (for now anyways) and purchase a FF trunk with a lens or two.
Problem is that, with my photography skills I may non even run into a big difference in IQ just it may be worth trying.
For the final yr or so, most of my picture taking has been riding my cycle (weather permitting) in and around my metropolis and accept photographs. I would recollect that one to 1.5kg would exist the most I tin can comfortably bear in my purse while riding.
We seem to have similar habits. my photo gear generally resides on my bike, sometimes in my kayak. My solution is a Mantona bikers' handbag or actually two. One of them takes my GX7 + five lenses, filters, batteries, cleaning stuff, notepad etc. The fit is more or less perfect. Since the bag attaches to the saddle post, weight is mostly moot. That said I haven't establish it (~two.5kg) a problem on my short walks. Usually the body ends up hanging over my shoulder with the last used lens fastened. The other bag is for my Sigma DP1-3M kit which incidentally is nigh the aforementioned size as the m43 system. You lot tin can adhere it either to the handlebar or the saddle post with the advisable adapter.
https://www.walimex-webshop.com/en/mantona-biker-photograph-bag-set-premium-2-adapter.html
Decisions, decisions.....
That's a dainty bicycle and a overnice setup you accept in that location......even in the snow. Which 5 lenses do you take?
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Thanks. I got it for a winter bike but so my summer cycle (Gitane Tour de France 1970s, it was squeamish) broke and so at present the Crescent does year round duty. It's just an average priced average level Zetta hybrid with entry level Shimano Sora gears. I'one thousand non much of a biker (too lazy) just a means of transportation and way to play a trick on myself into keeping a minimal fitness level (with varying success, particularly important at my age). I practice savor exploring my new environment (moved final bound) in a small way and discover a cycle the best ways. Peculiarly when y'all tin can combine it with train hopping. At the moment the winter is a soggy mess here (not very good for biking) though today we had some overnice fog (which I didn't manage to shoot much). I hate common cold but like snow and water ice then how am I supposed to cope with that? Probably going to encounter if I tin can stay upright on skis tomorrow.
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